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Thread: Stripper/chargers for 7.62 Nato
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lngstrt
03-19-2010

Same as 30-06?

Do the Indians use 5 rounders for the 2A/2A1 series?

I have some 10 rounders that are too unwieldy for quick loading. Would like to have some 5 rounders.

I have a bunch of Mauser clips... I wonder...


No4Mk1(T)
03-19-2010

7.62 NATO uses a 5 round clip. The Canadian ones I have here fit my M1A, FAL and 2A1.

No idea if the Mauser ones will work


lngstrt
03-19-2010

Well, that was funny.

5 rounds of 7.62 fit nicely - a little loose - but acceptably, on Mauser clips. They fed very nicely into my 2A1.

Hey! Where'd the clip go? Funny part is, the rounds didn't strip from the clip... it went right in with the 5 rounds!

Mauser clips are a little 'daintier' than the 7.62 clips. They don't rest on the magazine edge and stay outside the gun.


Parashooter
03-20-2010

You've got the wrong clips. Those made for the 7.92mm German 98 and its clones are narrower than those for the 7.62 NATO, and the lugs on the side are placed differently.

#3 is the NATO clip. Note central lugs and wide width as compared to 98 Mauser clips 7 and 8.


lngstrt
03-20-2010

Well, that's what I learned. I have about 400 rounds of Turkish 7.92 on clips. Woulda' been nice to use them.

That takes me back to my post above. Are the 7.62 NATO clips the same as 30-06 clips for the 03A3, for instance? My Dad has some of those. I don't see 5 round NATO clips at the shows or on the internet. I guess that's understandable as most 7.62 NATO weapons have been magazine fed autos like M14, FAL etc.


Parashooter
03-20-2010

#1 and #2 in the image above are M1903 clips. They are the same width as the 7.62 NATO clip but the lugs are placed differently and the mechanical design is different. The 6.5 and 7mm Mauser clips, #5 and #4, have the same width and design as the NATO clip but lugs like the M1903 clip.

All of the rifles for which these clips were made are "magazine fed". Most are also "clip loading". The shooter loads ammo from the clip into the magazine. The rifle feeds ammo from the magazine into the chamber.


nzl1a1collector
03-20-2010

Yes the Indian's used their own 7.62 x 51 mm Stripper clips. They are known as CHARGER 7.62 mm, Ammunition B.

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~kevin_a/India.html

Checkout my website about 7.62 x 51 mm stripper clips, it contains more info about these chargers/clips then you would ever thought possible.

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~kevin_a/index.html


lngstrt
03-20-2010

Originally Posted by Parashooter
The shooter loads ammo from the clip into the magazine. The rifle feeds ammo from the magazine into the chamber.

I knew that. If I'd stopped long enough to think. I load my AR that way when I have surplus ammo on hand.

Thanks for the info. I need to look much closer at the next show or two.


chartreuse
03-21-2010

Originally Posted by nzl1a1collector
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~kevin_a/index.html

That is an amazing resource! I was going to photograph an Indian stripper clip next to a Brit one, for comparison. But that seems redundant now - you've got them all up there.

Incidentally, the current batch of Radway Green that J&G are selling comes in bandoleers that are a slight variation on the Remploy ones that you have on there - velcro fasteners instead of press studs. Would you have any use for a photo / description?


lngstrt
04-25-2010

Today at a gun show I bought 10 chargers/clips for FN/FAL. They work fine in the 2A/2A1 Ishis. They are a little tight in the charger bridge but otherwise work just nifty.


nzl1a1collector
04-25-2010

Just out of interest what markings are on your stripper clips?


lngstrt
04-26-2010

If you go back to Para's picture they look like #5... no visible markings.


nzl1a1collector
04-26-2010

If they look like #5 then they not 7.62x51mm Stripper clips, they are are Mauser stripper clips.


lngstrt
04-26-2010

These are definitely 7.62. #5 in the pic looks like 7.62 also... Para said #7 + #8 are Mauser clips. Maybe #6 too. You can see they are smaller than the others.

Anyway... these look like #5. Shiny and silver and no markings.


nzl1a1collector
04-27-2010

Originally Posted by lngstrt
These are definitely 7.62. #5 in the pic looks like 7.62 also... Para said #7 + #8 are Mauser clips. Maybe #6 too. You can see they are smaller than the others.

Anyway .... these look like #5. Shiny and silver and no markings.

1: .30-06 Springfield Clip
2: .30-06 Springfield Clip
3: 7.62x51mm NATO Standard Stripper clip (Mk. 3) (marking could be under the spring)
4: M93 Mauser Clip
5: Most likely 6.5 Swedish Mauser Clip, if not, then a variation of M93 clip
6: 7.92 Mauser (K98) Clip (variation)
7: 7.92 Mauser (K98) Clip
8: 7.92 Mauser (K98) Clip (variation)

The bright shiny clips with two lugs aren't 7.62x51mm clips... they might hold and feed 7.62x51, but they aren't designed for it. There are a number of sellers on eBay selling these clips stating they can be used with 7.62, .30- 06, 6.5mm etc etc
Parashooter
04-27-2010

Almost, but not quite. Clip #6 is the pattern used in the Argentine 1891 and 1909 - and possibly some other early Mausers like the 1889 and 1890. A wing on the bolt stop positions the lugless clip.


lngstrt
04-28-2010

The guy I bought them from said they were FN/FAL clips... Any chance that was accurate?


nzl1a1collector
04-28-2010

Originally Posted by lngstrt
The guy I bought them from said they were FN/FAL clips... Any chance that was accurate?

Sorry mate those aren't FAL/M14/L1A1/2A/BM59 stripper clips, I'm 99% sure they will be Swedish Mauser stripper clips.


lngstrt
04-28-2010

Ah well... wadda ya gonna do? Thanks for the info. They work in the Ishies so I'll use them for now. 50 cents a piece won't kill me. Next show I'll be a little more picky.