Barrel fitting questionBarrel fitting question

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Last Post: July 15, 2009

anotherguy
12th July 2009

I am working on fitting my first Kart NM barrel. I have the hood sized at this point and I am now ready to move to the lugs. I have heard conflicting information about which lug to file. I have heard some say that you should file the slide lug and some say you should file the barrel lug. Which should I file? It is the rear most barrel lug that is over sized, correct?


niemi24s
12th July 2009

Did you get any instructions with the barrel?

Reason I asked is because the usual sequence of fitting a NM barrel is to first equalize (fit) the barrel lugs to the slide and then trim the hood so the barrel fits into the slide.

In any event, which barrel lug (or lugs) needs work depends on the slide. Read through this from our Stickies section: http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=25473


anotherguy
12th July 2009

There were no instructions with the barrel. Have I wrecked it? Thanks for the point in the right direction.


niemi24s
12th July 2009

I don't think you've wrecked it - it's just that any fitting of the barrel lugs to the slide lugs will increase the difference between the gun's static & dynamic headspace. For lack of a better term, I call that difference "endshake" - and it's how much fore-aft play exists between the barrel & slide when the barrel is all the way up into the slide in battery.

How much endshake do you currently have?

How many lugs currently make contact?

How much dynamic headspace do you currently have?


wichaka
12th July 2009

You're ok, fit the hood to the slide, all the while going slow as the lugs start engaging. Don't worry about the lower lugs yet. Get the barrel aligned in he slide, so the primer/flash hole lines up.

The last thing you do is cut the lower lugs.

There's an article on Blindhogg about fitting the Kart barrel, so this may help ya out.

http://www.blindhogg.com/gunsmith/barrel.html


Lazarus
13th July 2009

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I have heard conflicting information about which lug to file. I have heard some say that you should file the slide lug and some say you should file the barrel lug. Which should I file? It is the rear most barrel lug that is over sized, correct?

Before doing any filing, you should make use of a black felt marker, your calipers and maybe some modeling clay to see if the barrel lugs actually line up with the slide recesses. There is no guarantee that the parts will automatically have perfect alignment. Concentrate on the front faces of the barrel lugs. While it is possible to fit the barrel with just the #1 lug bearing, it is always a good idea to try for at least 2 lugs bearing. Take measurements, sketch it out and see how things line up.


wichaka
14th July 2009

I find that most people will never be able to take advantage of the quality of barrels that are out there. As long as the barrel is of good quality, fitting will be the deciding factor.


egumpher
14th July 2009

A little off topic but here is a x-ray photo clearly showing barrel lug engagement just before a round leaves the barrel:

I would alter the barrel before the slide because the slide is more difficult/expensive to replace.


wjkuleck
14th July 2009

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What is the best tool for machining the outside of a barrel bushing?

Larry Vickers taught me to use a belt sander.

Brownells has a slick tool to chuck the bushing into a drill press. You then use abrasive strips of your choice in a "shoe shine" fashion.


egumpher
15th July 2009

Here is a posting from Log man that shows how to make a tool for this:

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A simple to assemble fixture to spin your bushing to reduce the OD can be had by a trip to the hardware store and now you can use file, stones or paper and reduce it until you get the fit you wish. 3/8" flat head, nut and washer.


Lazarus
15th July 2009

It is a good idea to make yourself a sloppy fit bushing - one that holds the barrel loosely - during lug fitting. You do not want to install a tight bushing until all the lug fitting has been done. Note that in the x-ray view (above post) it appears that the front faces of all 3 upper lugs are bearing. That is the ideal, and that's why you need your felt marker and measuring tools.


niemi24s
15th July 2009

FWIW, here's the pic Eric posted after being given a double dose of sharpening:


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